My view on RP

[emilcaster]

I'm going to say something since the C-box is so clustered.. just my view.

I think that the RP should go back to the days of old. Less rules, less strict.. and easier to do things.

That's me though. So I made a poll to see who agrees.

[Maelys Knight]

if that means no stat points, then no

[Angel]

Sofaskofkasokfasop[kfasfasdfs j RAGGE

Don't just say back to the old way. List exactly what that means. List exactly what you want to see.

[emilcaster]

Oh sorry..


I mean smaller apps with simple things to fill out.
Less strictness on people.
Still keep RP character limits.


Things like the first RP.

[Angel]

Not enough. Smaller apps? How do you want them smaller? What should stay and what should go? Less strictness? Does this mean all of a sudden everyone will be immortal and we'll just recreate DBZ all the time? Explain what less strictness means. And what do you mean RP character limits? We do have them.

[SLE]

Nothing can get accomplished if the person listening to the problems is going to oppose the one with the ideas as much as possible. I could figure what he means easily. Make the apps smaller, cut the useless stuff, also, not all characters need such a compelling past. The RP mods are so strict nowadays "Oh, this is denyed because the beam can shoot up to a mile away" or "This attack costs too little, change it even though it's so important"

[emilcaster]

I know you still have to keep rules. Like the character limit.. but smaller apps in just basic info and attacks. Have a mod make sure the member's character isn't all powerful and godly. Members here aren't stupid. They should know when someone is going beyond power.

I feel that some times people take things a little over their head when RPing. Of course no god moding, but I mean.. when you want to make a post.. make a post that is worth reading. I felt more freely on what I wanted to do.. and so did others back in RP1 when Smashbro first mainly started it.

I remember playing as Speed, my RP character at the time with Dervish, Dobs, and Smashbro.. we seemed so much more freely with everything. When I RPed, people wouldn't say. "THAT CANT HAPPEN!" or "THATS GOD MODDING" or "WE DIDNT HAVE THAT PLANNED" or "THAT STAT ISN'T RIGHT" things related to that.
Of course things must not go over the line, but thats what mods are for.

I just feel that people take things to serious and make it not fun and more boring now here.

[Tony Redgrave]

Jan 1, 2010 22:55:26 GMT -5 SLE said:

Nothing can get accomplished if the person listening to the problems is going to oppose the one with the ideas as much as possible. I could figure what he means easily. Make the apps smaller, cut the useless stuff, also, not all characters need such a compelling past. The RP mods are so strict nowadays "Oh, this is denyed because the beam can shoot up to a mile away" or "This attack costs too little, change it even though it's so important"

I agree on some loosing up but some of the things I see denied are for good reason. Shooting MEGA AWESOME FUXYEAH Beams that go on for miles and miles is something.. that's... too outlandish. On lloyds point however, things change and having too little rules like the old days brings on its own set of problems... I agree with the new way mostly but people are losing the part about having fun

[emilcaster]

Losing the meaning of fun because things like denying a move because of being too strict

[starprincess]

Time for Star's point of view. This RP is a clusterCENSORED and I'll tell you why.. Back in the old days this RP was dependent on one person and that was Smashbro. We went along with whatever story he came up with and make it into something we could all enjoy. That is not an RP, that is a fanfic in RP form. That type of writing cannot survive without the storymaker, that's why the RP had changed so much after Smashbro's inactiveness. Not only that but the characters made back then were extremely broad even immortal. You must understand guys, simpler doesn't always mean better. RP1 -RP3 is a perfect example of too simple.

Now lets head up to RP4 and RP5. Shit got way out of hand. Why? Because the Staff changes so goddamn much, they can't agree on anything and they take months to complete shit that can be done with 3 hours of work. Also we waited too long to have a storyline when we should have had one planned and revving to go after Crehavos's defeat. I'll admit that character apps have gotten too complexed. There is a lot of crap that was added to make them more detailed and such. Although some people can handle these changes, other people/lazy individuals cannot. The approving process has become a freaking nightmare since every mod's opinions are different and they don't have set guidelines. The story is in the making but at this rate people will get fed up with the RP before it truly begins.

The solution.... There is no solution here because no side is willing to give up something to make a truce. The veteran RPers wont give up the past while the newer RPers won't simplify the RP back to the caveman days. We need a truce people. Something that won't make us happy but it won't make us disappointed either. This is my suggestion...

Destroy the RP and start Anew... I've said this before but no one agreed with me. I'll keep telling you until you listen... The storymaker Smashbro is gone veterans, he will not be able to make those epic RPs that you once had. You need to let the past go. Let's begin anew with a fresh new storyline that everyone can enjoy and easily get into. Lets get rid of the stats and energy in the applications. I know that some people like the energy stuff but if we compare it to the people that don't like it and the people that don't care, you guys are the minority. The RP staff may like energy but the members do not. This needs to go.. The application must be generalized to a point. We keep the basic necessities of the app but nothing overly complicated. Perhaps money can be given to the RPers again, instead of the characters and level can be given to the RPers as ranks, not a restrictive ranking system but one that gives bonuses to people that dedicate time and energy to the RP.

This suggestion will not please anyone but guys I'm asking you to stop this eternal struggle. The veterans are the simplistic Rpers that control characters to their own desires and the newer RPers are complexed people that see characters as their own creations not tools. Lets stop this. Lets leave the past behind us and plant a new seed in the ground. Lets make a new RP for us to enjoy.

[Angel]

I could bite on your suggestion were it not for the no-stat/energy condiment. If I can order your suggestion without it, then can I have fries on the side?

[Ghost]

the current storyline kinda disbans the SS or whatever the crap it's called...i'm too tired to care... when Kin goes and does his thing. Is this a complete new start? no....but i think the next one will. This one is a transitional RP. It's giving closure to the veterans so they can move on and it's giving the new guys a taste of what it will be.

Hang in there people... it'll work out we just need to hold steady for the remainder of this month.... my goal is to have it started by NO LATER than Jan 29th.

[SLE]

Jan 2, 2010 2:27:55 GMT -5 Angel said:

I could bite on your suggestion were it not for the no-stat/energy condiment. If I can order your suggestion without it, then can I have fries on the side?

Well then, that doesn't seem fair. We (the veteran RPers) would be giving up everything, you would have to give up like, barely a fraction of what you had. Really now, if it were the other way around where we had it set to Keeping the SSS, making a new storyline, and abolishing the new templates, could you honestly agree to that? Not to mention the fact that throwing out the RP and replacing it would be would be a win on one side, a loss on the other. Well, since it's still a new RP and all.

[starprincess]

Jan 2, 2010 9:14:37 GMT -5 SLE said:

Jan 2, 2010 2:27:55 GMT -5 Angel said:

I could bite on your suggestion were it not for the no-stat/energy condiment. If I can order your suggestion without it, then can I have fries on the side?

Well then, that doesn't seem fair. We (the veteran RPers) would be giving up everything, you would have to give up like, barely a fraction of what you had. Really now, if it were the other way around where we had it set to Keeping the SSS, making a new storyline, and abolishing the new templates, could you honestly agree to that? Not to mention the fact that throwing out the RP and replacing it would be would be a win on one side, a loss on the other. Well, since it's still a new RP and all.

SLE is right on one thing Angel. You can't just take something from them at not give them something in return to compensate. When It comes to energy, the rpers are very picky since they look at characters from a brawl point of view, not a Final Fantasy point of view. I think people were comfortable with the last energy system we had but that stats might have been a bit much. I like the stats system since its more RP like but most people aren't used to it. It was not a good idea to start this system mid RP. You should have waited until this RP officially ended to post the new template. Post it when the gaming world and the Fantasy world is made, not before.

Now SLE, throwing out the RP is win and a loss for both sides. The veterans and the newer generation RPers will be using the stories that they had. This would be a clean slate for everyone. That's why I suggested that the character applications be modified to be a bit more simpler. One side gives up something while the other side gives up another. You may think that you are losing more but from the other side's viewpoint, they are losing something important too. If what Ghost say is true, the new RP will be up in a month. Let's try to hold out until that happens. If he fails to keep his promise, you can kick his ass and get all that aggression out.

[Ghost]

don't shoot fire off at angel for the stats... that was my idea and my fault


I thought it seemed more game-like and it also in it's basics was easier than an energy bank.. why? because if you have X amount of stats that means you can only perform the same amount of attacks or abilities as you have stats. They refresh every single post so you don't ever run out unless the person you are fighting has status inhibiting abilities.