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Post by Rorschach on Mar 29, 2009 2:01:49 GMT -5
but in this case, we were all maturely having a conversation and handling it well. If a random person walked in, I would probably stop depending on who it is. AND we didnt even go too far. We went to the warnign stage and thats it. But I dont think many of us would go over to the instant ban stage. I also feel that if someone doesnt feel comfortable, they should at least TRY to adapt to the situation and if its not working, then speak up.
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Post by Angel on Mar 29, 2009 2:05:05 GMT -5
I feel like you shouldn't be breaking rules just because moderators aren't around. That's like a group of kids stealing candy bars.. "No one is around, der no camera's, so who cares?" still not allowed.
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Post by Dobs on Mar 29, 2009 2:06:22 GMT -5
I feel like you shouldn't be breaking rules just because moderators aren't around. That's like a group of kids stealing candy bars.. "No one is around, der no camera's, so who cares?" still not allowed. Because. Free candy is free. |
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Post by Rorschach on Mar 29, 2009 2:08:11 GMT -5
srry I shouldve been more specific...
If a mod is in the vicinity while we arew having this conversation, I think it should be allowed because everybody is able to handle the situation....but again, if a random guy comes in, they should try to adapt, then speak up.
The conversation didnt really even go that far. We didnt say the actual words wether censored or not and we tried to replace the bad words with alternates making it less innapropriate so im still wondering if that would count in the warning stage.
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Post by Angel on Mar 29, 2009 2:11:14 GMT -5
srry I shouldve been more specific... If a mod is in the vicinity while we arew having this conversation, I think it should be allowed because everybody is able to handle the situation....but again, if a random guy comes in, they should try to adapt, then speak up. The conversation didnt really even go that far. We didnt say the actual words wether censored or not and we tried to replace the bad words with alternates making it less innapropriate so im still wondering if that would count in the warning stage. Examples plox. I need to know what your talking about. But having a mod there, I hope the mod follows the rules. A mod breaking this rule HAS happened before, and should be dealt with in the same manner. One mod =//= Full approval. That's why we have a full staff. |
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Post by Rorschach on Mar 29, 2009 2:17:03 GMT -5
lets see......I cant think of an example...(damn, Im startin to lose this battle)
well for example...I hope this is right but earlier Bert and I were on the cbox...Stephy posts "walks in naked" or something like that.
I just wonder. Would this be considered sexual innuendo because I dont know wether to use this as an example.
But im saying that bert and I were comfortable with it, we werent going to leave or anything over the comment but I dont think a mod was present.
new question if even makes sense.....if stephy can post "walks in naked" then why cant I post "walks in with pants off XD" without it being considered sexual innuendo because I get the feeling if I psoted that then I would get a warning.
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Post by Dobs on Mar 29, 2009 2:17:57 GMT -5
I haz example!
Dobs-Cell-BB Buttseckz train = offensive
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Post by Angel on Mar 29, 2009 2:20:22 GMT -5
Walks in with pants off? I'll just tell you to put your f**k**g pants back on. XD
Walks in naked, same difference. Basically, it's me joking around, but also telling you.. your in YELLOW. Don't go into RED. Yellow is like, nude aint' bannable.. but your getting close. Hold up and go the other direction.
Very.
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Post by Rorschach on Mar 29, 2009 2:23:48 GMT -5
XD dobs....ok I guess I get it angel....but i'll be back...*gets escorted into police car* I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AWAY WITH IT IF IT WASNT FOR YOU SHINIGAMIS AND YOUR MEDDLING ZANPAKTOUS
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Post by ready2brawl on Mar 29, 2009 9:53:25 GMT -5
Generally, I'd agree with majority rules, but not this time. If the majority of people are doing something that makes others feel offended, uncomfortable, or otherwise hurt, it should be stopped.
Also, Stif, if you're still reading this, your sig is too large.
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Post by Ghost on Mar 29, 2009 11:35:56 GMT -5
OK i'm riding the fence here.....which may surprise some of you that i'm not leaping to Angel's aid... let me explain here.
1. Rules by personal judgment are BAD - no rule should ever be put in place that leaves it up to personal judgment. i 100% agree with Stif's point here. Devaux could look at one thing and think it not too bad, while Angel will look at it and think OMGWTF BAN!!! Also leaving it up to personal judgment also puts into play what's going on in a person's life. Cell could be experiencing a migraine, KoD could be depressed again, and either could find something they would normally deem acceptable as totally unacceptable due to their current mental or physical state. People could just be whiney betches for no reason and find a problem with basically anything, or someone could have a personal vendetta against someone and find any reason at all to ban them just for their own good. I would hope that our staff would be above that but unfortunately anything is possible and there has been blatant misuse of power in some of us (yes..myself included once) We need something that is more set in stone...or at least an attempt at something other than "a mod's judgment"
2. Save the children with happiness and sunshine - Ah yes, the old "for the kids" line... the one every overbearing mother wants to hear. Basically... HERE MA'AM let's bend over backwards and ignore our rights as Americans (yes i know some of you are from other countries) so that you don't have to do your job in monitoring what your child does/reads/watches. if a 10 year old is going to 4-chan, then obviously either the parents don't care or they aren't doing their job. It's not our place to determine what is good or what is not for someone else's child.
3. I was offended - Boo-Frickety-Hoo!! Everyone's going to be offended at multiple times throughout their life... Unless you become a congressman who can decide to put thousands of dollars into legislation against Barbie and Truck Balls, then the chances are you're going to be offended and their isn't a thing you can do about it. AWWW little Bobby got offended by my words.. News Flash...welcome to the real world bobby.... it sucks and people are generally not nice...the sooner you get used to this fact the sooner you can move on with your life and attempt to find some happiness in it. Why should i have to change my nonchalant behavior in the off chance that some random person might be offended by it??? NOW HAVING SAID THAT... for example, i know Angel doesn't like it when the word gay is used as a derogatory statement....Should i consciously use it in her presence?? NO that's inconsiderate and just being a general @$$. That would cause major strife and i would expect a warning and a ban if continued...... on the flip side, should Angel become extremely offended and shout out if i happen to still accidentally say it in her presence?? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Both sides need to show restraint.... Just because one person is offended doesn't mean the world needs to change... that person needs to give in some too and simply ignore it if it isn't persistent and isn't obviously being used to get to that person.
A couple of side notes to point 3. Some people are offended by MULTIPLE things... we can't just shoot down every single minute thing that someone is offended about... if i knew that there were 10 different topics that someone was offended about, i'd be thinking WTF is their problem and it would prompt me to WANT to talk about them just because this other person is being that way. Also i should probably just say this on MSN but i won't... Angel ...i luv ya but...... i'd appreciate it if you'd quit dangling The Sheik over our heads. That was a long time ago and we have changed since then. We screwed up and there is no need to keep bringing it back up again. Yes we were wrong, yes the majority was wrong, but seriously, please stop dangling that over our heads as a "look see...you screwed up" i don't THINK that's what you're trying to do by bringing it up but that's definitely what it comes across as.
4. The Rules of Proboards - I don't know the exact quote but there is something on the Proboards official rules and regs for ALL proboards that makes it against the rules of ANY proboards to have sexual topics and the like. I'm sure they are meaning.. don't make this a porn site, but still this whole topic of Innuendo kinda falls under that blanket category. What if Proboards management decided to randomly go to different proboards of theirs and check them out... then they come here see all the sexual talk on the c-box and shut us down. YES that's extreme and i highly doubt it would ever happen but it makes you think about it.
5. PG-13 - The Board needs to be PG-13 rated.......which makes me LOL because... HOW MANY PG-13 movies have blatant innuendo throughout the entire film? Some even have majorly sexual content in it. so the whole PG-13 argument needs to be thrown out cause PG-13 does include innuendo.
6. Children are different now - Time for me to put on the grandpa pants....... Back in my day...when i was 13... none of us knew what sex was.... innuendo was hardly caught when it was mentioned and if it was it was immature snickering at the short version of Richard. When i was as young as most of you... it wasn't till about 17 that you even started hearing of people doing sexual things that often or girls getting pregnant that young.... now that might have just been my environment but the old days were different.... kids now days..... i saw on the news that kids are getting sexually active at 12... WTF!!!!!!! I kid you not on the news some company did a survey of 6th graders and the majority of them were sexually active. That was completely unheard of back in the day. HECK they even have a tv show on Fox now about a 15 year old pregnant girl. Point i'm making with this is...we don't need to worry bout that stuff with the younger kids as much as we used to because they already know.....the world does enough.
So, in short
Should the rule stay? YES
Should the rule remain as it is? NO
Should we allow innuendo? YES to an extent
Should we let it run rampant and often? ABSOLUTELY NOT
A change in the rule does need to be made.... i don't know what exactly but we need to make it so that people can joke and say what they want within reason....without having highly offensive matters put across, and without having 10 minute innuendo festivals on the c-box
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Post by Angel on Mar 29, 2009 11:56:38 GMT -5
Massive opinion is massive.
But didn't sway my opinion on the subject. And, like I said to you on the c-box. A. Didn't mean to use it as such in this topic, so I feel like it's out of place here.
B. When I DO bring it up, it's because you and only you have really understood or accepted that you were wrong. Which seems highly hypocritical of me so blast it if I don't let it go. But for you Ghost, I'll try. I'll surely try. I iz just offended by transsexual-bashing. Like u iz offended by Ghost bashing.
It throws me in a label... but yes, I can't help it.
You guys seem to be misunderstanding what I mean by innuendo I believe. There is a right way and a wrong way to go about it. Which is why I asked for examples. I think their should be a limit.
There should be a limit to what is said, and I'll always be pro-everybody's-feelings because I'm uber sensitve girl and I don't wanna grow up. And I love innocence and when it comes to this side of things, my right-wing shows up and tells everyone, "Let's go back to the old days where we can say sausage without people being disgusting and children were actually allowed to keep their innocence."
I think innocence pwns. I didn't know anything sexual till I was 16.. I think everyone shouldn't. To be perfectly honest.. You end up less sexual active a adult which I have to tell you, it gives you all sorts of free thinking time when your not thinking with your sexual hormones.
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Post by Big Boss on Mar 29, 2009 12:10:44 GMT -5
Massive opinion is massive. But didn't sway my opinion on the subject. And, like I said to you on the c-box. A. Didn't mean to use it as such in this topic, so I feel like it's out of place here. B. When I DO bring it up, it's because you and only you have really understood or accepted that you were wrong. Which seems highly hypocritical of me so blast it if I don't let it go. But for you Ghost, I'll try. I'll surely try. I iz just offended by transsexual-bashing. Like u iz offended by Ghost bashing. It throws me in a label... but yes, I can't help it. You guys seem to be misunderstanding what I mean by innuendo I believe. There is a right way and a wrong way to go about it. Which is why I asked for examples. There should be a limit to what is said, and I'll always be pro-everybody's-feelings because I'm uber sensitve girl and I don't wanna grow up. And I love innocence and when it comes to this side of things, my right-wing shows up and tells everyone, "Let's go back to the old days where we can say sausage without people being disgusting and children were actually allowed to keep their innocence." I think innocence pwns. I didn't know anything sexual till I was 16.. I think everyone shouldn't. To be perfectly honest.. but we all dont think the way you do, and we all cant live in a perfect little world. I cant change the way you think and you cant change the way I think about something. the last time i checked calling someone a f*g is considered flaming and flaming is bad it leads to banning, what should be allowed is Innuendos to be allowed, but the moment someone gets picked on then thats where crap goes down. perfect example Big Boss: Hey Angel Angel: what? Big Boss: Your a f*g Angel:  Ghost: BANNED! now for another take Big Boss: lol boobs, lol weener, lol ass LGN: BUTTSECKZ  Dobs: Shoop da poop! Cell: Imbeciles the lot of you Ghost: heh the last example is perfectly fine, nobody was hurt and if someone was hurt then they should really lighten up. |
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Post by Angel on Mar 29, 2009 12:13:26 GMT -5
No.. actually I think your second example shows another thing. It used casually is fine.. but when it's repeated over and over I think it get's to far and it makes everyone wanna puke.. keep it to a minimal plox. All around.. Angel is just TIRED. I'm tired of pushing this. I'm tried of pushing anything.. *sigh* Everyday there is something new to push, and I was hoping I could sign on and today would be different.. |
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Post by Rorschach on Mar 29, 2009 12:21:55 GMT -5
I think we should make a vote on your "it makes everybody wanna puke" comment because I find it that you are now speaking for other members. We dont actually know if they want to puke over these comments.
i'd say what I think of how people handle when other people repeat sexual innuendo but i'd be a hypocrite so I really think we should make a vote to see how many people would really puke over these comments.
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