What is the point in having friends?

[¡Yiff Police!]

Dec 2, 2009 23:59:43 GMT -5 @graydove said:

Okay, I do not usually post in these things, but let me say, you're lucky I decided to post in this one.

First let me say, Twilight, after reading all your posts, I couldn't help but laugh at how similiar we are. I can honestly say, I know how you feel, I know what you have gone through, and hell, I know you. Now, let me impart onto some, rather harsh, words that I believe will help you. Actually, you'll probably just cast them aside, wasting both our time.

You are a naive little child who's beliefs are merely a shield you set up. You believe you don't need people because you feel you are superior to others, which you forced yourself to believe because you, for whatever reason it may be, can't bear to accept your flaws. You believe, that no matter how bad life may be, you will always have you "independence" your "superiority", and that is enough to get you by.

But one day, your "morals" will come crashing down, leaving you broken and full of self hatred. And when you look back on your life, you'll only curse yourself for your past stupidity. But hey, I already know how you're going to respond, and I know that this entire post was pointless.

And Angel, in case you ever read this, I have something to say to you too. I know I've said it before, and I'll probably say it several more times in the future, but you are the cutest, most aborably naive little thing I've ever seen.

First off, I would like thank you for posting your view on this matter.

But now I would to ask you how did you thought I was going to reply? First, the likelihood of you knowing what I been through is slim to none, since you do not know me, I never opened up to anybody, and this the first time I spoken or seen you.

Secondly, maybe your right on the part that maybe not wanting to have friends or desire the need to have friends is a shield of some sort. However, I admit and know my flaws, and boy let me tell you have I tons of them. If you knew me then you would know that I do not have a superior personality, nor do I look down upon anyone. I bee strong-headed, but I am kind and people have said before that I am a good listen dispute how this thread makes me look.

I do agree on the part about my independence because your right. As long as I have me, myself and I, I should go by through life just fine.

Now about the future, I cannot agree with you nor can I disagree with you since neither of us are seers that can see into the future. Maybe I will die a lonely, old virgin. But until that time comes, no one will know what happens.

Thank you for giving your honest opinion on the matter.

[Dobs]

I see there's no arguing with you.

You're going to live an extremely lonely and empty life without friendship or love. Both of which I'm sure you'll warm up to the idea of, being human and all.

[¡Yiff Police!]

Dec 3, 2009 1:26:15 GMT -5 Dobs said:

I see there's no arguing with you.

You're going to live an extremely lonely and empty life without friendship or love. Both of which I'm sure you'll warm up to the idea of, being human and all.

Why I am the bad guy...Is it because I have different perspective on life....Anywhoo, I accept that lifestyle with open arms. I hope it brings cupcakes, no wait cupcakes would make me full so I cannot do have them..Oh well.

[Angel]

Oh hohohoho again, at least my dog is there when I want it to be, can I say the same for you? My dog cheers me up when I'm down, sleeps with me in the night. Yes, I do feed my doggy, but dogs can sense the good in others, and I can say that with a straight face.

That's because again, you do things for this dog. You do shine up your friendship. Now, I don't wanna get into the communication thing but.. let's just imagine yourself a parent, an adult. You have a young, mute child that you took off the streets. You give it shelter, you give the child food, you give the child love. That child would be just as loyal to that person than the dog is to you. You give that dog so much, so of course they are loyal. The ONLY reason why that dog is loyal to you because you do so much for it, and if you did the same for another human being they would be just as loyal.

I said it at the end of my first post.. but you have to make your friendships shine. You have to work really hard. I said it's easier to love a dog BECAUSE of the communication thing. They can't talk back to you, you don't argue with each other, you don't fight as much. If the dog was smart enough to have it's own wants and desires that are besides. "FOOD FOOD FOOD and RUN RUN RUN". then it would be the same way. I consider myself emotionally alot like a puppy.. and so does mommy. I really am loyal to the people who shower me with love. But no one is going to be loyal to you if you think the only people that matter are your pets and your family.. that's just me being honest here.

I didn't mean to make you to be out as cold, uncaring, or the bad guy.

[Big Boss]

And now the best part of the whole thread: we are all your friends on here twilight. so you have friends, die a virgin most likely yes, but you failed at living a life with no friends, when we all are right here, caring about you.

[Dobs]

Didn't say you were a bad guy, just that you'd be miserable if you kept up with that kind of thinking. I don't think you will, nor do I wish that upon you. You're just a silly head is all.

[graydove]

Hell, maybe you're right, maybe you are different from me. You suprised me a couple of times there, and you do believe in bonding with family, which I was never, nor am I still, interested in. And to answer your question, how did I think you would reply. I thought you would stop after the third paragraph.

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Dec 3, 2009 1:49:37 GMT -5 Angel said:

Oh hohohoho again, at least my dog is there when I want it to be, can I say the same for you? My dog cheers me up when I'm down, sleeps with me in the night. Yes, I do feed my doggy, but dogs can sense the good in others, and I can say that with a straight face.

That's because again, you do things for this dog. You do shine up your friendship. Now, I don't wanna get into the communication thing but.. let's just imagine yourself a parent, an adult. You have a young, mute child that you took off the streets. You give it shelter, you give the child food, you give the child love. That child would be just as loyal to that person than the dog is to you. You give that dog so much, so of course they are loyal. The ONLY reason why that dog is loyal to you because you do so much for it, and if you did the same for another human being they would be just as loyal.

I said it at the end of my first post.. but you have to make your friendships shine. You have to work really hard. I said it's easier to love a dog BECAUSE of the communication thing. They can't talk back to you, you don't argue with each other, you don't fight as much. If the dog was smart enough to have it's own wants and desires that are besides. "FOOD FOOD FOOD and RUN RUN RUN". then it would be the same way. I consider myself emotionally alot like a puppy.. and so does mommy. I really am loyal to the people who shower me with love. But no one is going to be loyal to you if you think the only people that matter are your pets and your family.. that's just me being honest here.

Honesty is the best policy, or so they say. I see what your saying about the dog, communication, and loyalty. But there is one more thing that's awesome about doggies and it is that their loyal to you till the bitter end. Humans, no matter how loyal you been to them, if given the opportunity they would turn on you like that. Not saying all people are like that but come on what is the likelihood of finding a person like that?

I see you and your "mommy" are friends and I am truly happy for girls, but not everyone is that lucky, unfortunately. Thus, I am content with the fact that no one wants to be my friend, you make seem like a bad thing. I do not have the time nor the energy to try to make something work and it all be for nothing.

Another thing that makes a "friend" a FRIEND is the connection and bond that the two of you share. One creates such a bond by opening up to each other. I for one, have no qualms with listening and trying to help others with their problems, but I am not the kind of person that opens up to someone, heck not even to my own family. So do expect to open to some complete stranger that may or may not be there in the future?

And now the best part of the whole thread: we are all your friends on here twilight. so you have friends, die a virgin most likely yes, but you failed at living a life with no friends, when we all are right here, caring about you.

Nice gesture. However, I do not have friends, I have acquaintances. None of you care for me (especially not after a thread like this) it's just not plausible for someone to care for something they do not know. Sorry

Didn't say you were a bad guy, just that you'd be miserable if you kept up with that kind of thinking. I don't think you will, nor do I wish that upon you. You're just a silly head is all.

Positive thinking brings about positive outcomes, right?

Hell, maybe you're right, maybe you are different from me. You suprised me a couple of times there, and you do believe in bonding with family, which I was never, nor am I still, interested in. And to answer your question, how did I think you would reply. I thought you would stop after the third paragraph.

I'm glad I surprised you. I do not like being too predictable. Now, do not get me wrong, I only care about my family members who have been there for me.

[Angel]

Because of the joy that person can give you while they are alive.. that's why you should. That's how I feel. I edited on the post that I didn't mean to make you sound as if your bad, heartless or anything else.. and this thread hasn't lessened my opinion of you by any stretch.. don't be so paranoid silly. I have other great friends besides mommy that I wouldn't give up for anything in the world either.

People want to be your friends, and I've opened up to everyone. It is possible to care about someone you barely know, I feel like I'm living proof of that. Sure, I don't care as much.. but not because I don't want to. I'm trying my hardest to open up to anyone who will listen.. because I'm not choosy with my friends. If anything, this post has made me want to be your friend more so I can try to show you that they are different than you feel. You can't keep worrying that they are going to leave you.. if you keep thinking about everything being gone eventually.. you'll never live.

[Tony Redgrave]

Well Twilight, friendship is one of the things that helps you live a full life. Humans are after all, social creatures. If your alone all the time and you keep that attitude, your just going to be making yourself miserable. You say you don't wanna take a chance to make something work but that's what life is all about.. well a full life anyway. You can keep putting up shields and barricades around yourself but its not protection.. its isolation you will regret in the future.

You don't have to suddenly try to open up to random people like your saying (nor would I recommend it lol) That stuff will you find comes in time.

So in short, my advice to you is to stop being such a whiny CENSORED-baby butthead who is going to pout and getting all emotional saying "whats the point? I'm gonna die a virgin and no one will care! I don't care." Life is about taking steps forward and childish thinking like that is simply back-stepping.

Tear down those barriers and look out into the real world, find people you like, form some bonds, fall in love and try to die at least knowing you had fun while it lasted and it was worth it. I mean do you really want to die and have no one at your side and just be with your own thoughts? If so, I really pity you.

[Is an honest person so sorry]

[Bert]

ITT: Twilight says he likes being alone, people take ignorance to a whole new level.

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Dec 3, 2009 1:26:15 GMT -5 Dobs said:

I see there's no arguing with you.

You're going to live an extremely lonely and empty life without friendship or love. Both of which I'm sure you'll warm up to the idea of, being human and all.

this also leads to the fact that to love someone you have had to at least be friends at first. friends accompany you and have fun with you. and as what dobs said its your choice you can live a lonley life with no one or learn to trust people and be with them.

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Dec 3, 2009 2:53:05 GMT -5 Angel said:

Because of the joy that person can give you while they are alive.. that's why you should. That's how I feel. I edited on the post that I didn't mean to make you sound as if your bad, heartless or anything else.. and this thread hasn't lessened my opinion of you by any stretch.. don't be so paranoid silly. I have other great friends besides mommy that I wouldn't give up for anything in the world either.

People want to be your friends, and I've opened up to everyone. It is possible to care about someone you barely know, I feel like I'm living proof of that. Sure, I don't care as much.. but not because I don't want to. I'm trying my hardest to open up to anyone who will listen.. because I'm not choosy with my friends. If anything, this post has made me want to be your friend more so I can try to show you that they are different than you feel. You can't keep worrying that they are going to leave you.. if you keep thinking about everything being gone eventually.. you'll never live.

Thanks, I guess. But, I know the laws of life and what not. I understand where your coming from, so do not get me wrong. However, everything or everyone may move on in this world physically, but spiritual they live on in those who they touched. Which you also stated yourself. Now I do not think really seeing eye-to-eye on certain aspects, but that's understandable, thus I'm going to bullet my thoughts on friends:

1- I do believe in the whole friends concept.

2- I appreciate your offer and I like chatting with you Angel, but we can never truly be called "friends". Like I mentioned before, I do not open to anyone; even if you open to me I will not reciprocate the same thing. Thus, we always just be "acquaintances" as harsh as that sounds.

3- I guess thread makes me appear to be socially inept, which is not the case. I like chatting with people, having fun, etc. But that's where it ends. I actually had a close set of people in 8^th Grade, but even as close as we were, I in my heart of hearts I cannot really call them my friends, were just close acquaintances. On top of that, we all do not talk each other anymore.

Well Twilight, friendship is one of the things that helps you live a full life. Humans are after all, social creatures. If your alone all the time and you keep that attitude, your just going to be making yourself miserable. You say you don't wanna take a chance to make something work but that's what life is all about.. well a full life anyway. You can keep putting up shields and barricades around yourself but its not protection.. its isolation you will regret in the future.

You don't have to suddenly try to open up to random people like your saying (nor would I recommend it lol) That stuff will you find comes in time.

So in short, my advice to you is to stop being such a whiny CENSORED-baby butthead who is going to pout and getting all emotional saying "whats the point? I'm gonna die a virgin and no one will care! I don't care." Life is about taking steps forward and childish thinking like that is simply back-stepping.

Tear down those barriers and look out into the real world, find people you like, form some bonds, fall in love and try to die at least knowing you had fun while it lasted and it was worth it. I mean do you really want to die and have no one at your side and just be with your own thoughts? If so, I really pity you.

[Is an honest person so sorry]

I like your style Shuma. I agree with you we are social creatures and there's nothing wrong with hanging out with folks. However, I do not need friends to survive; I function pretty good by myself.

As I told Gray, maybe your right, I might be a miserable person in the future but I will just have to wait for that time to come around.

You see it as "whiny" but I am just presenting my views on the issue regarding friends. And when did saving yourself or wanting to be a virgin become a bad thing? I'm not against sex by no means, it just not for me, or rather I'm just being realistic about my solution. Sorry, overall I consider myself optimistic about most things, but sometimes I do have pessimistic views on certain issues.

People have different definitions on what is fun. Besides, there's nothing wrong with wanting to be by myself. Monks do it. Sorry if you pity...Just the way I R.

ITT: Twilight says he likes being alone, people take ignorance to a whole new level.

Thanks, Bert....I guess he understands me?

this also leads to the fact that to love someone you have had to at least be friends at first. friends accompany you and have fun with you. and as what dobs said its your choice you can live a lonley life with no one or learn to trust people and be with them.

I trust people to a certain extent. I'm also pretty trustworthy myself.