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Post by ¡Yiff Police! on Dec 2, 2009 16:45:42 GMT -5
Why do people strive to have things called "friends"? To me, I see having friends more a burden than fun, or heck even nurturing. I prefer not having to connect to people because I see it as a waste of time.
I honestly do better by myself than having to worry about befriending someone who may or may not actually like talking to me. Besides, they say friends are good for you but I call BS. I do not need someone to tell me crap, I probably can get better advice from Cleopatra the fake TV Fortune Teller than from someone who claims to be my friend. Another thing that irritates me is all the rules comes when you become someone's friend.
I just rely on myself and no else for support. Friends seem more of a headache that something can be helpful. Now, I do believe in acquaintances but not friends. I do not see how people can open up and get close to others. Just seems like nonsense to me. I do not mind talking about different things, that does not bother me, but there to many rules, regulations, concepts, and among things that come with befriending folks.
Maybe you think I'm cold-hearted for saying such things but I would disagree. I just see having "friends" is just a load of crud, all you need in this world is you, family, and a pet. In the end of the day people come and go, but you know who you are. Their are better things out there then trying to bond with someone.
One more thing, I noticed that people normally bond with someone they have common with, that can of seems vain don't ya think? Of course that's one thing I won't really talk about because I guess it is nice to talk to a person that are interested in what you like.
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Post by Big Boss on Dec 2, 2009 17:04:55 GMT -5
ill just wait for angel, or someone like that to post here...
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Post by ¡Yiff Police! on Dec 2, 2009 17:09:05 GMT -5
ill just wait for angel, or someone like that to post here... What is that suppose to mean? And If you were not going to post anything relevant or useful, why did you even bother?  |
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Post by Angel on Dec 2, 2009 17:14:49 GMT -5
Well, you came to the right person on this one. Angel is one who wouldn't live without making friends. Unlike some people, like maybe yourself.. I don't like the person I see in the mirror and I strive to better myself. The first and most selfish reason I strive to make friends is so I can better understand myself, and so I can understand why I am who I am.. and so I can see things in others that might be something I should see in myself. I look to others because I didn't get taught much things in my childhood, and I don't know very much. But there is a bigger thing.. and one I might get a bit.. rambling on and on about. Maybe it's because I've been reading books since I was tiny, but I've always believed in the power in comradeship. People have such wonderful light in them, I've met people in books that were so beautiful. It seemed that every single character had a reason, a purpose, people they loved, something they cared about. Even the "villains" had light, yes. I know these were just books characters, but as I've met to meet more people in my life.. I see the same things in them that I see in myself and I saw in them. Everyone has a heart. Everyone loves something, like something, cares about something.. has their own path to follow. I was so fascinated in the individuality in people.. because despite how beautiful I thought people were.. I was still finding my own self (I still am.) and I wanted to be around all the wonderful people in the world and see if might not see bits in pieces of them in me. And I did.. and in more ways that I thought I would. The more I met people, the more I started looking at them. How they made me feel when we were together.. how every different person carries their own beautiful string of "self" as I say it.. and the more we spent time, he more it felt like they tied a bit of that super long string to my heart. When they are gone.. when the people I love are gone.. I feel like someone is slightly tugging at my heart. I feel this bit of emptyness because I want to feel that aura of self in my life. I started seeing my friends as more than just.. my friends. My friends, my good friends. They are me. They left a footprint on my soul, the more I met the more I just didn't want them to go away. Even if we don't talk for hours and feel like we just bore each other.. even if we fight.. that bit of essence made my life worth living. Another person that I could make smile.. gave me a reason to keep going on. When I can make another person happy.. make them feel a bit less empty.. I feel less empty myself. When I can make another person smile, I smile too. It's this most beautiful chain effect that by actually listening and loving someone else, we spread love and kindness and make the world a better place. We really do. My dream is to find all the people who will love me for who I am, for what I can do and can't do. People will frustrate you.. people will disappoint you. But in the end, you have to learn to love that part of them just as much as you love the part that makes you smile. People aren't just wastes of time.. people aren't just horrible things that you shouldn't want to be around. Every single life on this Earth is a beautiful treasure, and the more people you have to love, the more you spread yourself out.. not only will you love much longer after your death.. your love, kindness and words spreading and continuing to live after your body decays.. but the more you just feel rich. It's the best currency in the world. But friends won't come to you if you never give them worth either. Your treasure is always based on how much shine you put into it. You have to love your friends for them to become priceless. EDIT: ill just wait for angel, or someone like that to post here... Blast.. I'm too predictable. T__T |
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Post by Kismet on Dec 2, 2009 17:23:28 GMT -5
*shrugs* No, you don't need friends, but they're nice to have around. There's nothing wrong with liking another person and spending time with them simply because you enjoy their company. I personally enjoy your company on the c box, you wacky oddball you.
Also, when people post stuff like this, it really sounds like they're trying to prove something to themselves. So lean on me! When you're not stroooooong, and I'll be your frieeeeeend...
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Post by ¡Yiff Police! on Dec 2, 2009 17:40:37 GMT -5
Unlike some people, like maybe yourself.. I don't like the person I see in the mirror and I strive to better myself. Thank God you should maybe, because I would of found a way to slap you. Seriously, most people do not like the person in the mirror, including myself. I, too, strive to better myself. Clearly the main difference between you and I is that I do not need others to make me a better person. Learning to be independent and self-sufficient is very important in this world. Sounds more like psycho babble too me, but to some extent, I do believe there is good in everyone. Like I said people come and go. I think you just need learn that people will not always be there, and like I will keep mentioning, learn to be INDEPENDENT!!!!!!! WRONG, I never said people are a waste time, and said trying to make friends is waste of time, way to twist my words WOOT! Also, towards the end of this paragraph you mentioned reaching out to others and touching others to keep your spirit living even after death, yeah your right, its called bonding with your family. The only people that I care about, and I would like to think they would remember me after I die. I do, they are called my pets. Trust me, there is a reason why they call dogs a "man's best friend". Animals are more loyal than actual humans. Now I do wanna say, unlike you, I do not need someone to like me. If do happen to like me, well hell that's great, but if do not well that's nice to. As long as the people that I truly care about ,I.G My family and pets, care about then that's all I need in this world. |
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Post by Angel on Dec 2, 2009 17:49:33 GMT -5
First I wanna say hostile much. I was just ranting about the topic, I wasn't trying to twist your words. I never said you said anything.
I LOVE people, and that's the main difference. You don't trust them, putting animals on a higher plane than them even though we are all the same. We all have instincts, weakness and kindness in us. Your dog is no loving than me, no more trusting than me. He just has a lack of ability to communicate with you and hell, your the one that feeds him and controls his life so he definitely likes being around you. If you did the same for me I would be the exact same way. It's called situation. It's just easier to gain your dogs trust and you don't feel like you have to work to keep it up.
Your family in the end is just PEOPLE. I've met tons of better people than the ones in my family.. and I know people who don't even speak to their family. If your capable of wanting and loving someone, then your capable of wanting and loving everyone. It's just, again.. "Easier' to love your family because you saw them everyday of your life and your going to be around them all the time.
I don't give a flying CENSORED about being independent or self-sufficient.. and I'm not. I cling to my friends and I cling to Alexia. If "mommy" died right now, I would be honestly in huge trouble. I don't care.. you don't know the joy I DO get from trusting myself so entirely to another person. To let them in so deeply that the distinction is unfindable. To give yourself so much to your friends that you hurt when they hurt..
You can call my words "psycho-babble" but they are the words I live by. I don't care if one person won't always be there.. because if you love dozens of people and let them all in.. there will always be another person you can rely on. I get so sad.. so sad when I lose someone who I cared for... because they were apart of me. But at the same time, I can move on because there is still so much light in the world.
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Post by Kismet on Dec 2, 2009 18:10:10 GMT -5
My post was ignored. Heavens.
EDIT DESIGNED TO INFUSE USEFULNESS INTO USELESS POST:
Both of you are ranting about your own ideological views on friendship. While fun, ranting by definition means you're not actually here to listen to what someone else has to say. Your last post is pretty much testament to this, Twili. If you weren't prepared to actually accept the possibility that your views could change from an exchange of ideas here, then this whole thread is a waste of time designed to stoke egos and make yourself feel better. And I do not approve of such douchebaggery.
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Post by ¡Yiff Police! on Dec 2, 2009 18:53:10 GMT -5
You call it hostility, I can it honesty. I'm not in the mood to bite my tongue at the moment and you should not either. Oh hohohohoho, speaking as if you know me? I will admit I do not love people, I like them yes, but do I love them? No. It is naive to say such a thing anyways. Yes, yes, yes, animals are ten times more loyal than any human out there, unless your talking about cats. Cats would eat their owners dead body, a dog would not. Oh hohohoho again, at least my dog is there when I want it to be, can I say the same for you? My dog cheers me up when I'm down, sleeps with me in the night. Yes, I do feed my doggy, but dogs can sense the good in others, and I can say that with a straight face. I actually agree with you here to some extent. I do not just call anyone my "family". Yes, there are people out there that related to me, but I would not call them family. Whom call my family are those who have been there for me during hard times, good times, and everything in between. And, its not necessary "easier" to LOVE your family, rather its easy to forgive them, but its defiantly not easier to love them. That's a serious problem then. Everyone whether they like it or not has to be independent to some degree. IF someone was to pass on, you have to move on whether it pains you or not. And like you said, people live on in our hearts. Oh come, stop with passive-aggressive mind games and just come out and say it; that I'm a cold-hearted bastard that does not know how to connect with others. I will give a cookie if you did. Besides, connecting with outsiders is so last year, people so two-faced nowadays you cannot even trust the picture of George Washington on the dollar bill. Yes, I did call your words "psycho-babble", but that's my opinion you should not care about others think about you. And let's get real here; first off, most people have an adequate amount of friends but there's only a few of them that one would consider as "best friends". You do not really care if a friend of yours whom you were never truly close to left you. Now maybe if one of those "best friends" of yours was to leave you then you would probably more hurt. Oh yeah now that I think about, the statement about the dog liking you only because you feed it contains HUGE amounts of false information. Let me tell you something, I am the main caretaker when comes to my pets but there was a good amount times where a dog would like another member in my household rather than me, and that person did not even take care of them..I DID! Yes animals cannot verbalize their feelings towards you, but dammit they can communicate their love for you other ways. EDIT: @kismat!! I like that song a lot. I post this because: One- For some more activity around here  Two- I like debating, ish fun. Three- I like expressing myself, there's nothing wrong with that. This is not my first rodeo. I know the deal kiddo, I been doing this on this forum for the last couple years. By the way this is nothing, you should of seen the thread I did titled "I don't believe in love" a couple years ago. When did it become a crime to post your thoughts on certain things? Since this a conversation/debate I have the right to post my opinions on the matter on hand. Thus, speaking my mind now considered being a douchebag? Well, if that the case, I do not care. I will speak my mind no matter what the cost is. I do not care if someone agrees with me or not. P.S This thread is in no way or form here to make myself feel good. I am NOT an egotistical in any shape or form. |
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Post by kunekune on Dec 2, 2009 19:30:00 GMT -5
Friendship is what you make of it :/
I'm sorry none have ever worked out well for you.
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Post by IOwnedYou on Dec 2, 2009 19:41:54 GMT -5
Just pointing it out... Not having at least 2 good friends is socially unhealthy. Sure you have family and a pet, but not having friends is a serious issue and it's a FACT that it's socially unhealthy.
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Post by ¡Yiff Police! on Dec 2, 2009 20:24:26 GMT -5
Friendship is what you make of it :/ I'm sorry none have ever worked out well for you. Passive-aggressive sarcasm is a low blow. But it is what it is. I knew what I was getting myself into when I did this thread. Pssh, society screwed as it is. Besides, I do not care about others standards. Having friends does not make you less or more of a human being; no, better yet having friends does not make you good or bad person. |
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Post by Kismet on Dec 2, 2009 21:10:55 GMT -5
ohmyrecognitionicanpostagainnow! As this thread is located in General Discussion, as opposed to Spam, its very location implies that a discussion, i.e., an honest exchange of ideas with the possibility of redefining your view of the subject at hand, is expected. However, the content of this thread is more or less UR RONG/NO U, meaning while ideas are indeed being presented, nothing is actually happening. As that does not constitute either a discussion or even a conversation, this thread is indeed kinda pointless, and thus douchebaggery.Which, you should note, is just one of my favorite words and isn't meant to carry offense other than the inherent silliness of the word. You could replace it with asshattery or twatwafflism if you'd like. If playing Devil's Advocate is your aim (which I would whole heartedly approve of, incidentally), then your argument cannot be based entirely on opinion and emotion, but rather logic and rationalization. By the way this is nothing, you should of seen the thread I did titled "I don't believe in love" a couple years ago. Love? What is that? Surely such a nonsensical intangible concept cannot exist. |
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Post by ¡Yiff Police! on Dec 2, 2009 22:00:04 GMT -5
ohmyrecognitionicanpostagainnow! As this thread is located in General Discussion, as opposed to Spam, its very location implies that a discussion, i.e., an honest exchange of ideas with the possibility of redefining your view of the subject at hand, is expected. However, the content of this thread is more or less UR RONG/NO U, meaning while ideas are indeed being presented, nothing is actually happening. As that does not constitute either a discussion or even a conversation, this thread is indeed kinda pointless, and thus douchebaggery.Which, you should note, is just one of my favorite words and isn't meant to carry offense other than the inherent silliness of the word. You could replace it with asshattery or CENSOREDwafflism if you'd like. If playing Devil's Advocate is your aim (which I would whole heartedly approve of, incidentally), then your argument cannot be based entirely on opinion and emotion, but rather logic and rationalization. Love? What is that? Surely such a nonsensical intangible concept cannot exist. Trust me, if the Angry Rant section was still here I would of posted this thread in there but alas, that's not the case so I have to make do with what I got. Once again, I have the right to post my views on something and there's no harm in that. But I do agree with you that this does can of feel like "Your wrong/I'm right" short of ordeal, though I'm still interested in hearing other people views on this topic, but I'm not shock that so far, I'm in a minority. No, I'm not one those kinds of people. Like I said, that was a thread posted a couple years back and there was great a fighting, name calling and more. But after many grueling pages of heated debate, we all come together. So it wasn't so bad. |
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Post by graydove on Dec 2, 2009 23:59:43 GMT -5
Okay, I do not usually post in these things, but let me say, you're lucky I decided to post in this one.
First let me say, Twilight, after reading all your posts, I couldn't help but laugh at how similiar we are. I can honestly say, I know how you feel, I know what you have gone through, and hell, I know you. Now, let me impart onto some, rather harsh, words that I believe will help you. Actually, you'll probably just cast them aside, wasting both our time.
You are a naive little child who's beliefs are merely a shield you set up. You believe you don't need people because you feel you are superior to others, which you forced yourself to believe because you, for whatever reason it may be, can't bear to accept your flaws. You believe, that no matter how bad life may be, you will always have you "independence" your "superiority", and that is enough to get you by.
But one day, your "morals" will come crashing down, leaving you broken and full of self hatred. And when you look back on your life, you'll only curse yourself for your past stupidity. But hey, I already know how you're going to respond, and I know that this entire post was pointless.
And Angel, in case you ever read this, I have something to say to you too. I know I've said it before, and I'll probably say it several more times in the future, but you are the cutest, most aborably naive little thing I've ever seen.
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