Let's clear the air

[The Solid War Doctor]

I think I'll give this a shot.

Cell: Smart, Organized, Polite. You treat everyone fair and you never say "hate" as in "I hate you". Sometimes you can be mean and sometimes we know its cuased by the migranes. But you always apologize for it.

SLE: You are very cool and funny but sometimes you are REALLY random and it gets on peoples nerves. You never really get mad at anybody.

Brian: You created this place but you dont get on enough

Angel: I hardly talk to you and your always friendly. Sometimes you let the small things get to you. I think your the quickest member to become staff (record Except: original staff) which means you are a very fun and smart person.

Dobs: Dobio, Dobert I feel like we're brothers your funny, cool, and wise. Sometimes you say things that I take offense to but I know you dont mean to offend people.

Me: well I feel I fit in here this place is so unjudgemental. I regret the fact that I ever made friends with Sonicoutruns because it later lead to my down fall from Green Mod to normal member. I do however still have that ray of light that gives me hope of reaching the position of a Wire Frame.

[Stifmeister is Diego Armando]

Let's think....

Angel: You are SUPER responsible and have mad a great mod, and have made tons of great choices and suggestions, but in all honesty, I find that you worry what people think about you too much, I think that you need to get to the point where you realize that doing your mod duties is more important than being nice to people you meet online.

Cell: SUPER cool dude. You're one of the best mods we have, and you're responsible, firm and strict, but you tend to get angry over rather trivial things, probably due to migraines, but it would be super awesome fabulous if you could control yourself a little better emotionwise.

Star: You're a very cool and funny person, and you have great ideas, but often I feel like you defend the people who should be punished, you often get mad at us for not giving spammers enough chances, SPAMMERS! You seem to feel like they're these potential great members of society, and it's a little aggravating. You often back up terrible, TERRIBLE people on here *cough*lts*cough*

Maia: I'm gonna have to be blunt, you're always flirting with people on the site, including me once, and frankly, it's a little creepy, and dangerous, I'm not sure how you are with that in normal life, but you can make people feel uncomfortable and unsafe if you do that a lot.

Brian:.....get on more? I dunno, I only talked to you once ever, and that was about testing the fangame.

SLE: If you quit again, I'mma have a heart attack, that was scary. You're one of the coolest dudes here, don't leave EVAR.

I'll do more laterz.

[Mariomasher]

MAH TURNZ! (i won't write paragraphs)

KoD:Awesome member! Very active; therefore, you are here for me to talk to when i come on. You are a good guy with a good sense of humor. You make great videos and write epic fanfics! You are a dear friend and I'm glad you are like my double. You do seem to loose your temper but you are definantly getting better at it. Keep up the good work!

Twilight: Awesome member and former mod. You, in fact, were my first friend on the site!You aren't affraid to express your opinion and explain whats on your mind when you need to get it out. You are funny and I'm glad to see you active again. You might look on the downside, ocasionally, but I listened to a song and it made me realize. Stand out in the rain and let it wash everything away. Focus on now. Dont look back at something dumb you did, dont look forward to hope on something that you are nervous about.

Dobs:Random and funny guy. You make a great admin of the site. You don't abuse your power and try to make things as simple as you can. You are the ultimate metroid fan of the site. Glad to have you as a friend and someone i can turn to for help. You rarely try to avoid occurring problems but it may still be one time too many. There is a saying,"If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem." Overall you are a very good mod.

Angel:A very, very good mod and friend. You are very helpful! You are there for me when i need to talk to someone about my problems. You withstand your own life while you maintain other peoples lives too. You need to focus on your own life. Soon enough the lives you're holding up will weigh more and more and your life will get weaker and you will collapse. Focus on yourself and fix your problems first. It's great that you care about other people but you are just as important.

Maia:Awesome member. You are very sweet but can get emotional at times, like me. Dont listen to other people tell you that you did something wrong, dont let other people get to you and make fun of you. They arent perfect either so they shouldnt talk.

Peram:Awesome friend and mod. At first i was skeptical about you. Iwasnt sure if you were the kind of person I'd hang around with but the year ive been with you, ive seen that i really made the right shoice when becoming friends with you. As twi has pointed out, you were a little edgey when smash left for a week, but you turned around, ate a pie or two, maybe a few epic soups, and pointed out what you needed to fix and you are now the Peram I know.

SLE:A random guy and a funny one. You are a good friend but there is one thing. You let small things get to you. You let the smileys get to you. I understand that people were upset about the smileys but they shouldnt have done that, its the past, dont worry about it k?

Cell:You are funny, yet serious, random, yet controlling, and many other things. You seem to let things get to you and you become a hothead. But you are getting better at it and i say you are an awesome friend to have. one of the best mods there is!

[bobsnicket]

Just so everyone knows, this kind of thing is very uncharacteristic of me, and will probably be the rudest and least sophisticated you ever see me type. With that said...

My style is going to be a bit different, because I'm going to only list negatives that really stand out, good things, and then...a somewhat controversial negative which may not apply to EVERYBODY, but very well could.

Ahem:

*puts on ridiculously thick-rimmed critic glasses*

Angel: You're sweet and try to be nice to everyone, even if that person doesn't deserve it. Post more in the rp.

Bert: You're great at comics, randomness, and writing short fanfics. But ya need to return to the rp! We need your spontaneous epicness.

Bob Snicket: I refuse to speak to you.

Cell: One of the most dramatically changed people on here, for the better. You used to have a LOT of temper issues, but now have learned to restrict most of them to Crehavos's behavior in the rp. You contribute a lot and without you, rp4 would fail.

Devaux: You're very good at reading The Trophies, and although at first your comments weren't very helpful (too short), you've recently started to be one of the people whom I know makes it worth it to continue posting. Also very random; again, could use you in the rp.

Dobs: A VERY fun person to be around! You're a great admin, make a lot of friends, while at the same time deal well with enemies. A man of action, I would say, with an extra skank to it. A VERY good rp'er also, I might add.

Doom: I never see you around much. You had a good rp character going; wish you didn't give up on it.

Ghost: Alright, as one of the co-founders of the Fan Fiction section, I have always felt that you're someone who is mature enough for people to look up to and respect. Another VERY good mod, and you deserve every Karma point that you've ever gotten. However, I think I recall the Constitution mentioning something about "MILD cursing is allowed." Well, what is that, exactly? It's not just you; Dobs, Kin, Cell, etc. But I am a bit confused because I've heard people claim that severe curse words aren't allowed, and yet I see them (not just for humorous purposes, either) all around. TO EVERYONE: it helps if I can actually read out everything you type in my head without having to skip or replace words every other phrase.

Kin: You seem to have taken a dip almost opposite to Cell and KoD; you're one of the best rp'ers, come up with epic plot ideas, and are fun to exchange funny images with on the C-Box occasionally. But you have to learn to just leave certain things in the past, where they belong.

KoD: I agree with what other people have said (to a less extreme). You've really improved a lot in nearly every way, and I admire you for being able and willing to change. We all need to change ourselves, but not very many are humble enough to actually do it. I always have and will enjoy your fanfic. One thing I would suggest is using less capital letters. Even in the rp. Try going for ONE WHOLE DAY without using a SINGLE capital letter. See what happens.

MM: I don't see any negative qualities in you; that is RARE on a forum like this. Only complaint is that MM seems to die in almost every rp.

Smashbro: I admire your imagination that got a huge part of this forum moving: the rp. It's great that you're still trying to be active after previous events, but keep in mind that people outside the forum deserve respect too, including parents. Even if they don't understand the situation at all.

SLE: You contribute well, but don't seem to recognize it. I have to say that you're too much of a quitter; don't give up on things so easily. A nice but fragile person.

Steele: I am continuously impressed by what you have done for the site. You make a great negotiator and leader, and are the genius behind much of the POSTY's.

Twilight: A very hard person to dislike for any reason. No real complaints. Thanks for reading very long Trophies sections even after you were gone for so long. You're perserverent.

Peram: Another surprisingly good Admin; random also seems to be ingrained into your very soul, but use it sparingly, and let people know what your personality is really like.

FINALLY, A GENERAL NEGATIVE:

This may apply to everyone, or just some. But I get the impression that, the opposite being not being active enough, some seem to be a bit TOO attached to this forum. It's good to take friendships seriously and all, but...some of the arguments I see, here, honestly... THEY'RE ONLY VIDEO GAMES! And despite the worth this site has become to many of us, I must manifest the realistic, dreadful truth that it is nothing less, but nothing more than a website. A forum. No one can in real life punch you in the face through the screen, so some might consider not pretending so. Drama is always fun, but can lead to hurtful situations. And while it is great to come here, make friends, share things, and improve writing skills, life does not exist in a screen. Be aware of REAL life, which ultimately has to come first. That's just the way it is. Don't make online forums and fantasy lands and Animal Crossing Towns your only hope for a normal life. (I just totally stole that from Batman...) Like I said, some may not have a problem with this, but it's just a truth we all have to realize. Kin, I'm sorry, but I really doubt that your posterity are going to become members of this forum to take your place. (you might not remember when you said that, but I do ) While this forum is a great place to relieve stress and have a good time, don't let it become a permanent escape. That will just lead to further problems in life. A relationship with someone online can go only so far as opposed to knowing someone in physical reality. Alright, I'll leave everyone alone now. ;D

[Angel]

General responses to things Bob just said:

I will post more in the rp. If someone will actually sit down and fully explain aspects of it, I would do alot better. This RP is much different than other's I've been in and is long going, yet has no story page. This is bad!

Thank you for mentioning the cursing. It is a bit much around here.

But yeah, your final comments are all good.

Bob: A quiet, mysterious individual who is one of the better RP'er's I've met. A bit too quite though, I never really know what he's like or what he really is even interested in. Be more active in the Staff Lounge. Even just a vote would be berry nice, you don't have to respond.

MM: Sweet, sensitive, and a someone who I think is a great person. A bit too much of a downer though, try and be happy okay? Life is wonderful.

Stif: Different, but not afraid to be. Self-confident and wise, but a bit too hard on some people when you find certain things annoying.. Tis something you need to work on.

[Bayonetta]

Well, I'm not this type of person to blunt out what I think about people...so..realleh...I'll try...Anehways:

Angel: Encouraging, kind, compassionate, sweet, live, and just really enlightning. You usually make me smile when you enter the chatroom, never more than Star though. You're inspirational, MY ONLY thought on you is that, when you're feeling down sometimes, you tend to draw all the attention on yourself on purpose. Not saying all the time but yeah. Just what I think.... AND you SO TOTALLY kick I disagree in brawl.

Star: My favorite girl, I luff you so much. Sweet, kind, collected, awesome, and just plain my type. I really can't see anything negative about chu FROM my POV but you do SOMETIMES need to be aloof. You also do lovely kicking mah ass in brawl!

KoD: Probably one of mah favorite guys on the site, a real good friend. Though the King of DARKNESS, you light up mah day. You're friendly, kind, sweet, cool, and a gentlemen. My onleh problem with chu is that....you make me feel like chu like meh..and I'm...*Counts on fingers* five years younger than you. I mean, I'm not saying I don't like your hugs...you're probably one who hugs meh no matter what. So yeah....I didn't have to say anything negative about chu..I just have this vibe chu like meh.

Art: Hardly ever on, makes me cry in SSBB when he mercifullessly kicks mah ass...I love him a lot. He's funneh, kind, sweet, live, and outgoing. And your problem ish...*First thing I mentioned* Chur hardleh evah on mah dude.

Cell: You've hurt meh, but I've learned. You're kind, helpful, a threat in brawl (and fun to play with), and.......caring. Onleh problem with chu from mah POV, you're conceited..and I hate people who are conceited.

Jukan: So far, talking with chu, you seem kind, cool, and very calm and collected. Chu don't seem like the person that I would hate..not at all. Not negative...yet...

Steele: You was the first to fight in Brawl, and LAWD, you can kick ass. You're funneh, cool, caring, and very auxilarating. You seem aloof sometimes and hardleh talk so..I have hardleh anythang negative about chu.

Devaux: From when we've talked, you seem outgoing, fun, funneh, kind, sweet, awesome. Never fought chu in brawl, hoping to though. Nothing negative yet.

Big Boss: You seem cool, outgoing, funneh, kind, nice, and awesome! So far, the only thing and problem I may have a problem is you, chur easileh tempered.

Meta: Not sure if chu still active at teh site but chur a cool, funneh, nice, awesome, kind, and outgoing person. You make Meta Knight seem like the MASTAH out of everyone else in Brawl. My friend chu fought, JayD, he said chur realleh good too. Problem, come on teh site moar!!

Dobs: Realleh random and funneh! You're friggin' awesome dude. And I realleh need to fight chu moar so I can realleh know Samus. I always hated fightin' Samus. Nothing negative yet, hardleh know ya.

Doom: Hardleh know ya but chu seem SO funneh and awesome, I mean seriousleh. Nothing negative about chu yet.

Bert: Random and funneh. Also awesome, to meh, mah problem..mah POV, you're too serious half the time.

That's all for nao!

[[EDIT]]

Sour: VEREH funneh, kind, helpful, sweet, awesome, and nice at brawl. We've had our problems, but I simply got over it ^^ Nothing negative to say..nao.

Ghost: Funneh, awesome, SCAREH (sometimes), and cool. You're someone I can really talk to, ya knoe?? And you seem like chu be a great daddeh. Take care of chur woman! >.< xD

Brian: You created a wonderful site with friendleh people, but chur hardleh on.

SLE: FUNNEH and RANDOM, I luff you. You're an awesome person and a real cool friend to meh. Nothing realleh negative to say about chu. And I'm glad chur back!! And I most appreciate chu..the smilies are awesome!

LGN: VEREH cool, helpful, and encouraging. You realleh helped meh when I kindah lost mah mind that time and did bottle up mah emotions. Thanks for being there for meh. Nothing negative about chu to say.

Stifmeister (Stiffeh!): You're funneh, random, and cool. You're kindah optimistic and love to stay on teh positive side. Nothing negative to say about chu.

TwilightLink: You're awesome, funneh, kind, and sweet. It's like you're mah cushion when I fall and you tend to make meh laugh a lot. It's like chur an awesome friend, and chu is. I realleh have nothing negative against chu...realleh.

MM: You're funneh, calm, sweet, and kind of random. Me and chu have a lot in common which is weird. Nothing negative about chu, yet.

Bob Snicket: I hardleh know you but I've heard you speak..(Not literally) but you seem kindah cool, and kindah nice. Nothing negative about chu, yet.

That's enough!

[ManOfSteele]

Feb 4, 2009 1:32:09 GMT -5 Cell said:

SHWAHM yourself every once and while dammit.

[Cell]

Feb 6, 2009 16:33:25 GMT -5 ManOfSteele said:

Feb 4, 2009 1:32:09 GMT -5 Cell said:

SHWAHM yourself every once and while dammit.

OMG, forgot about that! XD

Well SHWAHM yourself more often than that, oh, and you is too serious sometimes. kthnxbai.

[Rorschach]

haha Nobody ever talked about me YAY....well lets begin:

KoD: You can be one of the nicest and happiest people here and you alwayz know u can have fun with KoD. But ummmm how do I put this.......lets use example: Say that TL is telling me off, you'll then tell me that Im mean and all that only when TL is telling me off. Its kinda like u dont really have the guts to say it yourself.

Angel: Damn u became a mod quickly....you can be nice and cool at times and you can relate to most topics we talk about but when ur sad.......it turns into Therapy with angel....I understand that we all wanna help anybody thats sad but sometimes I think that ur sad over the littlest things....

SLE: I understand I dont talk to you much but your here a lot and ur cool to talk to...especially when it comes to Sonic games....but strangely I alwayz get the biggest feeling ur hand is alwayz on the ban button so I cant really speak freely around you....jus statin my opinion, ur still cool though.

Maia: Weve had our problems in the past but I think were over those now. Ur basically my sister(cuz arts ma brother and ur his sister) and ur cool and silly and keep things nice and light-hearted. But when ur goin through sumetin and you tell ur stories(like the girl who wanted to fight you for no reason) I jus wanna go to New York with a shotgun and handle everything...ur stories anger me a lot or can be REALLY depressin...only complaint, please dont tell such depressin stories.

me: I can be ok at times and usually Im easy to talk to but I can be a total ass at times and not a very nice person....im not easily pissed off but when I am, I tend to ruin everybody elses fun too. I can be mean although what may not be mean for me is mean to everybody else.

[Dobs]

Bob_Snicket Although it may not look like it, you're one of my favorite people here. You're incredibly smart and, like ghost, you think out everything that you are going to say, and you communicate it articulately. That is why I am so fond of you; because you always have something intelligent to say; and if you don't you keep your mouth shut. Which ironically, is also the only negative I could come up with for you. I know that you are always lurking in the staff board, but very rarely will you say anything. You should make yourself heard more often than you do. Oh, by the way, as soon as my life stops being exciting, I WILL finish the trophies; mark my words.

[ready2brawl]

Since I never had spent too much time in the c-box before a little while ago, so I feel like I barely know many of you, but I am going to try this...

IN A SINGLE BREATH!

So, here I go:

*deep inhale*


Star:
You're fun and exciting, but I sense that you can be a little commanding sometimes.

TL:
You like Heroes, so that's a plus. Umm... negatives... huh. I really can't think of anything. OH! You've never played through EarthBound. The rest of you, that counts as a negative. PLAY EARTHBOUND. NOW.

BB:
You're a smart guy, but lately, your friend's death seems to really have hurt you. You can't let that hurt your other relationships.

Cell:
You seem to be really... not random. And that is a godsend when you're on the internet: someone you can actually understand. My negative is when you make my head explode. Cell=Cell but Cell=/= Cell? MADNESS!

Angel:
You are the most kindhearted person I have ever met had the pleasure of knowing, but you seem to fear opening up.

KoD:
You get my vote for most improved member. You used to be real braggart and really argumentative, but you seem to have either repressed that or removed it completely. Anyway, you can push your YouTube channel a little bit. That's all I can think of.

Steele:
You're really hardworking even with all the stuff on your plate, and yet you remain true to the site, but you haven't SHWAHM'd anyone in a while, so... yeah.

Ghost:
You were the first person on the forums I played online. You promptly whupped my ass. And then you put it on YouTube. You get the South, so there's a small bit of that inexplicable brotherhood there. I really can't think of any negatives.... Have you ever played EarthBound?

Dobs:
There is an aura of win about you, Dobs. There's a reason why you're an admin. And that aura... that reason... is your 'fro. OMG your 'fro is the best thing ever. Negative... negative... gosh... ummm... Got it! You don't make your sister come on the site often enough.

Jukan:
This site owes SO much to you, Jukan. We would be nowhere without you. And that's only the best thing, and since things have to come in pairs, I won't say any more. However, can you please, PLEASE talk about something other than anime? I feel so left out sometimes.... Oh well, that's my fault.

SLE:
You are the meme guy. And I like the randomness that you bring to the table. What I don't like is how you let stress get to you. Just chill.

LGN:
Well, I have two negatives for you. 1) POSTYs. You'll never hear the end of this. 2) You hate Zelda. You'll never hear the end of this from me, either. How in the world do you hate Zelda? And if you do, WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU EVER SAY THAT ON A SMASH BROS. FANSITE?!?!?!?!? *facepalm* Anyway, you're the only person on the site that I've played (a repertoire that includes Ghost; Cell; Dobs; you; and, unfortunately for me, Deft) that is on the same level as me, and your themes are epic.

Solid:
You can be a short fuse at times, but you're opinionated (a trait that I find to be a good one). I have very little contact with you, so I know very little.

Stif:
...All right, you caught me. I know little to nothing about you. The good thing is that you have an ellipsis in your name. The bad thing is that you have not yet noticed the ninja behind you.

MM:
...OK, two in a row. Umm... A positive is that you joined in November of 2007. A negative is your lack of a monkey in your sig.

Bob_Snicket:
First off, your comment about yourself had me in stitches. Wow. I may have never laughed so much in my life. I wish we would talk more often; from what I've seen of you, we share many similarities (Especially that OCD about spelling errors. NOTE TO ALL: Download Firefox. Seriously. It comes with an automatic spell check.). I wish you would talk more and make a sequel to The Trophies, even though I realize that you need to move on to new ideas. If you contributed as much as everyone else does, I'm almost positive you would be my favorite person on the site.

Maia:
The fact that you have nothing negative about me is an indicator of how little you know me. Knowing me, that's probably a good thing.

Sour:
I have no clue who you are.

*passes out*

[Dobs]

Devaux I have you in the same boat as Snicket. You're more awesome than you are given credit for. One of the few people around here who has NEVER irritated me, made an unfunny joke, or said something that wasn't chock-full-o-win. I have the same criticism for you that I do Snicket... I know how awesome you are, but no one else does. Say things.

I disagree completely with Snicket's criticism of us.

[The King Of Darkness]

Devaux: YOU LIKE EARTHBOUND!! ZOMG I FEEL LIKE I HAVE SOMEONE TO TALK TOO! Other then that your kind and witty. Your problem? Get on the cbox more.

Peram: A funny clever smart admin that is also a fellow movie maker! JINJO!!! WEEE!!! LOL! I love your sense of humor and you NEVER fail to keep me from getting a laugh. You even unlike me regularly update your Youtube Channel. Ummmm.......I cant really think of a negative.

Stif: Ah one of my best friends on this site. You have a great taste in music and are always there if i need someone to talk with in the early morning. You have confidence in your self and i respect that. Your problem is on some days i dont see you AT ALL. I only tend to see you early morning on weekdays or occasionally in the later night. Other wise your a great guy who im proud to call my friend.

Bob Snicket: Wow we have had a lot of good fan fic talk in the past and your fanfic acts as a lasting inspiration to mine. You a clever boy and my only problem with you is this. You take FOREVER to reply your PMs. Im refreshing my page every 5 secs waiting for an important PM from you. That and the fact you Never get on the cbox.

Maia: At times you are cheery and just a fun person to be around. You have your own way at looking at things and that makes you an individual. My problem with you honestly is you seem a little flirty. Probably just a girl thing right? Also at times you can get down and depressed and unwind your sadness all over the cbox. Otherwise your a great person.

Jukan: Well you've helped me so many times in the past. Whether that's been me dealing with emotional issues caused from my life or if i just need a shoulder to lean on for support your always there for me. Your problem is you want to help out the site but 9 times out of 10 your everywhere BUT the site. With you all i hear is "SS this" and "SS that." Maybe it's time to become more active back with your roots?

Big Boss: Well you are truly deep down a hard working, dedicated member to this site even from the beginning. My question is what happened to you? You were on the top of the world as a CH and suddenly you just changed. You lost all your power except your New RP powers. I don't know you dont seem like the same BB anymore. You need to show that the responsible BB is still there within you.

Bert: Yet enough great hard working dedicated mod. I don't know you that well but honestly you seem like a real ego-trip. I mean Gaminggod90 Ego trip (Yes thats REALLY bad ). The one line i always see coming from you is something like "Man Im AWESOME" or "Im like a GOD of AWESOME!!!"

Geo: Oh man you have helped me through so many mess back in the past. I remember coming to you on a daily basis to talk to the Guru in need of Guidance. You are well informed on the world around you and will do anything to help a person in need. Your one true problem is simple. Activeness!!! You need to come on the site more ofter. I don't care where on the site. Whether its the site, the cbox, or the staff boards, just come and hang out with your friends.

Brian: You made this site. You create this little world of ours. I truly thank you. Your problem? Your NEVER and i mean NEVER on.

SLEaman: Your hardworking and great at making our cbox smilies but you do tend to take things WAY to seriously or go overboard with enforcing the rules.

LGN: Another great member. What i like about you is your like an amoeba your always some different shape or consistency which keeps me entertained. My one complaint is your lack of POSTYS. I want dem plez!

THIS TOPIC NEEDS TO BE STICKIED PLEASE!!!

[peram]

LGN: My brother from another mother several miles away. He's cool, and is fun to play Fable 2 with Our friendship started from a topic that made some other people angry, but I'm not gonna go any further into that.

Dobs: My partner in crime. Also one of my best friends, and you're extremely random I've played the most animal crossing with you out of anybody else in the universe, so YEW SHOOD FEAL SPESCHUL.

Bert: OMGOLOLOLWTFBBQ RANDOM = Bert. Me and Bert has had some pretty epically random conversations on AIM, and he's awesom-BERT LOOK OUT IT'S THE POOL NOODLE!

Peram 2: Keep up the good work

Devaux: I really didn't know much about you, but then we had our random 60,000,000 PM long conversation and now I know dat yer kool tew Glad to have you in the Cbox.

No one else matters and I hate you al-I mean, I'll probably do more later, but I dun feel like doing teh rest right now. I'mma go play Call of Duty.

[Angel]

Feb 8, 2009 7:43:32 GMT -5 The King Of Darkness said:

THIS TOPIC NEEDS TO BE STICKIED PLEASE!!!

Actually, I would prefer that this topic died eventually, once everyone's gotten their say. Leaving it up on top would be annoying.