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Post by rebirth on May 5, 2009 19:28:28 GMT -5
>  I liked this Debate.. I hate you for ending it J/k It's all good  |
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Post by ness11 on May 5, 2009 19:35:00 GMT -5
Surprisingly I'm going to be more involved in this than I thought.
I have to agree with Bob particularly everything you said, although I must say those were a lot of benefits for being married. Actually, I'm not quite sure whether or not just yet, I'm middle of the road. I don't think the goverment should have all this control over religous principles However, I'm fine with two people of the same sex deciding to live under one roof, but do they really need to be publically/officially married to know how they feel for each other? I guess that's a human right that they should have, but is it all that nessacary?
I actually do know two instances where official marriage would have been worse for both pairs of my grandparents instead of staying both unofficially married but living under the same roof. My grandma would have lost money she recieved from her late husband's military service had she officially married her current husband. I know it's a small detail compared to your expansive list of benefits, but it must have been enough to just have them be unofficially married, which is fine for people their age.
However all of this is irrelevant. I for one felt that when a certain memeber revealed how she truly was I was like "You + Knowing this = What exactly?" because it doesn't really change who you are as a person.
That's really all I can say at this point, I agree with a lot of Bob's points, but also yours and Angel's.
EDIT: On that note I re-end the arguement.
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Post by starprincess on May 5, 2009 20:14:57 GMT -5
Let me be the first to say that marrage fails. If two people love each other and they want to be together, than they are married. You don't need some priest to tell you that. You don't need some license to show everyone your love for this person. Love is love and no one has the right to tell you who you want to spend the rest of your life with. Marriage is the special bond between two people. We shouldn't be judging people or messing up this concept with material things like money.
Children are raised period... You do not need both genders to ensure that the child stays on the right path. If you have the common sense and the patience to raise a child, then you can raise one. Now it is true that a child can only be produced by a man and a women but what's wrong with adoption? You're saying that raising a child with two mommys is wrong and unfair? That child probally lost his parents in some accident or the parent dumped him off because they didn't want them. We adopt kids because life was unfair to them. If we can give them the love and attention that they require than I believe everyone can become good parents.
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Post by rebirth on May 5, 2009 20:35:43 GMT -5
Surprisingly I'm going to be more involved in this than I thought. I have to agree with Bob particularly everything you said, although I must say those were a lot of benefits for being married. Actually, I'm not quite sure whether or not just yet, I'm middle of the road. I don't think the goverment should have all this control over religous principles However, I'm fine with two people of the same sex deciding to live under one roof, but do they really need to be publically/officially married to know how they feel for each other? I guess that's a human right that they should have, but is it all that nessacary? I actually do know two instances where official marriage would have been worse for both pairs of my grandparents instead of staying both unofficially married but living under the same roof. My grandma would have lost money she recieved from her late husband's military service had she officially married her current husband. I know it's a small detail compared to your expansive list of benefits, but it must have been enough to just have them be unofficially married, which is fine for people their age. However all of this is irrelevant. I for one felt that when a certain memeber revealed how she truly was I was like "You + Knowing this = What exactly?" because it doesn't really change who you are as a person. That's really all I can say at this point, I agree with a lot of Bob's points, but also yours and Angel's. EDIT: On that note I re-end the arguement. (sorreh) I will like to make a closing argument. Why do people did get publicly/officially married to prove love? Besides benefits and what not, I don't know why but if two people are really in love with each other then let them be married. Though i guess you can say that marriage shows that you are willing to settle down and possible spend the rest of life with this loving person. marriage can sometimes ruin a relationship but heck sometimes i guess people are just willing to risk and see what rips life has for them.  |
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Post by ManOfSteele on May 5, 2009 21:18:16 GMT -5
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Post by starprincess on May 5, 2009 21:35:49 GMT -5
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Post by rebirth on May 5, 2009 23:15:19 GMT -5
Honestly what was the point of this other than slowing down my computer?  |
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Post by Angel on May 5, 2009 23:30:24 GMT -5
He did it for the lulz. However, there was none except by Star..  |
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Post by Doomflame on May 14, 2009 19:07:13 GMT -5
I'm neutral for it, but more leaned over to against it . I'm not going to go into as much detail as you people but i believe humans have the right to do whatever they want (don't take it to seriously). And if we are so stuck up on the word "marriage" we could make another word for g-marriage. But with the same benefits as marriage too. Or change the def. of marriage.
I would feel sorry for the kid though if he gets adopted by 2 gay couples....he'll be picked on and bullied...cruel world.
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I liked this Debate.. I hate you for ending it J/k It's all good 
