Post by Angel on Sept 17, 2009 1:13:52 GMT -5
Okay, I want to jump into this dissucsion.
A computer is definetly capable of thinking, and I do believe there is almost (key word) no differenece between the human mind and the artifical mind..
It's natural for humans to believe that machines can't and aren't capable of thought. You've seen automatic doors and you've seen ovens and other machines. They are built for single purposes, nothing much out of the ordinary, and we instantly and almost to extreme predijuce base our keep machines on this level.. we belittle them and treat them as lesser, for pure reasons that we believe we've seen all there is to see about them, they are silcone and metal, while we are complex carbon. I don't see why we actually think ourselves on much of a higher plane then them.. when they have alot of advantages over us.
A machine can think, but it all depends on your idea of the term.. "think", and your perception if a machine can reach these levels.
Quoting a book, so some of the following arguements don't completely come from me.. but they definetly are ones I think hold truth.
"For people, thought seems to require some extra-special substance. But try to see this from a AI's point of view. There are many creatures with braings, worsm.. fruit flies, bumblebees. Do they they think?
They can speak to you in many languages and can reason with you in all of the. They can build themsleves, they can write poetry,can beat you at chess. Who is more the thinker, the computer or the bumblebee? According to that view which most people take, a bumblebee is more of a thinker."
But their brains are far bigger than any bumblebee.
In the end, I want to say that a when a computer is asked a question, there are millions of answers it could give, but it choses the right one. Patterns are one thing, but there comes a time where it will have to analyze everything it knows, everything it has learned in order to make a good answer to a question, to carry a "conversation" as it would be called. Respond to changing circumstances, modify it's own objectives.. the same thing any human does. What we think is our conciousness is really nothing more than us accessing our memories, our knowledge and making judgements based on that. How is that any different?
-- Special thanks to Genesis by Bernard Beckett.. the book helps me put my thoughts to words much easier..
A computer is definetly capable of thinking, and I do believe there is almost (key word) no differenece between the human mind and the artifical mind..
It's natural for humans to believe that machines can't and aren't capable of thought. You've seen automatic doors and you've seen ovens and other machines. They are built for single purposes, nothing much out of the ordinary, and we instantly and almost to extreme predijuce base our keep machines on this level.. we belittle them and treat them as lesser, for pure reasons that we believe we've seen all there is to see about them, they are silcone and metal, while we are complex carbon. I don't see why we actually think ourselves on much of a higher plane then them.. when they have alot of advantages over us.
A machine can think, but it all depends on your idea of the term.. "think", and your perception if a machine can reach these levels.
Quoting a book, so some of the following arguements don't completely come from me.. but they definetly are ones I think hold truth.
"For people, thought seems to require some extra-special substance. But try to see this from a AI's point of view. There are many creatures with braings, worsm.. fruit flies, bumblebees. Do they they think?
They can speak to you in many languages and can reason with you in all of the. They can build themsleves, they can write poetry,can beat you at chess. Who is more the thinker, the computer or the bumblebee? According to that view which most people take, a bumblebee is more of a thinker."
But their brains are far bigger than any bumblebee.
In the end, I want to say that a when a computer is asked a question, there are millions of answers it could give, but it choses the right one. Patterns are one thing, but there comes a time where it will have to analyze everything it knows, everything it has learned in order to make a good answer to a question, to carry a "conversation" as it would be called. Respond to changing circumstances, modify it's own objectives.. the same thing any human does. What we think is our conciousness is really nothing more than us accessing our memories, our knowledge and making judgements based on that. How is that any different?
-- Special thanks to Genesis by Bernard Beckett.. the book helps me put my thoughts to words much easier..
