The end of the world.....

[K-Sharp]

Most people think when I say "the end of the world" that im beening foolish....but im not people and sciencetist are saying that the world will end at 12/21/2012 right near my birthday but the acient civilization A.K.A Miya Profit says that the world will be destroyed by various events such as meteors,gas leaks,volcanos,ect.




Some of the people I told really gets scared....but this is not to frighten you but for you to understand about these events that can may or may happen.

[lloydexphere]

I'm not going to say it's not, or it is true, but I will say this:
There are many people out there from way back to even now that say it is true. All the smart people from the acient civilizations (like you said) and up until now. The bible says some clues too.. but not enough to proof imo.

[kunekune]

Do I think the world will end? Yes, it most certainly will in the future, if not by nature then by our own hands. Do I think it will end in 2012? No. Why? I'll give you my opinion:

The Mayans are trusted in this scenario because of their cultural advancements during their time period and as a result of their wondrous scientific studies and findings. However, the world of science has undergone serious reconstruction since their time period and I'm sure that other claims for the end of the world have arisen since then. Why aren't these receiving as much attention? I'm sure the claims since then have given different interpretations about the end of the world, so why do the Mayans get the spotlight?

It's more interesting.

People find it more interesting if it's an ancient civilization that predicts the end of the world.

tl;dr The world will not end in 2012. While gullible people cry in terror in their basements I'll be applying for graduate school.

[lloydexphere]

Here are some more points I thought I should show. I got some of these from other sited btw..

1. There are theories about ALIENS FROM OUTER SPACE - but is this December 21 2012 end of the world idea a result of too much time sitting in front of the box and not enough actual facts? And how did they come up with this 2012 prediction about an alien invasion when there is no widely accepted proof that aliens even exist! This unlike, the next theme, does not deseve any serious attention.

2. What about the biblical PROPHECIES OF ARMAGEDDON - we have already had two world wars, will the world end with the ultimate war between good and evil in the year 2012? Biblical prophecies have been right before. One example is the birth of Christ which fulfilled about 300 prophecies. Before Armageddon comes however (and December 21 2012 is not predicted in the Bible as "Armageddon Day"), biblical prophecies speak of a great time of GREAT TRIBULATION on the earth. Having said that, the Bible not only prophecies about a battle of Armageddon on earth but also increased earthquakes, floods, famine, disease, wars and rumours of wars.

There will be things happening in the heavens far beyond our control. These are not end of the world 2012 dooms day predictions. But the Bible does say God will use cosmic events as means of his judgement on earth before the final day of judgement. If there is a dooms day, that's it. But before that day, Revelation 16:21 speaks of catastrophic disasters like 50 kilo hailstones. Matthew 24:29 says, "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the SUN be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:" But while the Bible speaks of judgment on earth before the ultimate "day of judgement", it also speaks of hope and describes very clearly how to escape the coming wrath. This is not about escaping any December 21 2012 doomsday prediction... but something more fearful!

3. Then there are stories surfacing about SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENTS along the lines of splitting the atom - will the earth be blown up by a mad scientist? Apparently there is an experiment on a very large scale planned for the year 2012. Could this bring about an end of the world 2012 dooms day? In a long very tunnel, particle physicists plan to collide electrons and positrons (the opposite of electrons). The tunnel may be up to 50km long and they will use energies of up to a trillion electron volts. This will hurl these particles at close to the speed of light. No one knows what will happen if antimatter is created. Could it destroy a delicate balance in the universe? Will December 21 2012 end of the world predictions be fulfilled through scientific a experiment? We don't think so.

4. On an ancient MAYAN CALENDAR 2012 is an IMPORTANT DATE The Mayan Calendar runs out on December 21 2012 and it has been suggested that they knew something we don't. This is the basis of what has been called the Mayan caleandar 2012 Prophecy. However, just because an ancient Mayan calendar ends on December 21 2012 it does not mean that the world will end then too, especially as the Mayan's did not actually speak of a doomsday, much less a 2012 doomsday. True, on the Mayan Calendar 2012 was important and you can find out more about this by clicking the link below the next paragraph.

STRANGE MAYAN BELIEFS. While the Mayan's had some interesting beliefs and insights about life and the cosmos and while some of them reflect scientific observations today, there are other things you may not have heard of. For example, the Mayans also believed that our sun is a god powered by blood from human sacrifices - this and other beliefs were influenced by hallucinogenic drugs which were used, among other things for autosacrifices (yes, suicide). So be careful what you believe about Mayan calendars.

5. A very real possibility is DISEASE - we have seen how quickly it can spread and devastate human life on earth. And there has been talk of the threat of pandemics for several years now. Including the recent Swine Flu pandemic. But is it reasonable to say that the world will end this way on exactly December 21 2012 with an earth wide pandemic? No!

6. Will SOLAR FLARES snuff out the earth on December 21 2012 - solar flares seem to come in cycles and NASA have said that the sun is due for a big one around 2012. How big and if it will really happen or bring about an end of the world 2012 doomsday are unknown. What we do know is that our life on earth is deeply affected by the activity of the sun. And as mentioned in the section above on Armageddon, the sun WILL play a role in end time biblical judgments on the earth. However, while solar flares and other solar activity may affect us more in 2012 than other years, no one can predict that solar activity will bring about the end of the world on December 21 2012.

7. BIOLOGICAL WARFARE has been suggested as a means to earth's end. But again, how can one predict that the world will come to an end in this way on exactly December 21 2012? The threat of biological warefare will always be here as long as we have insane and / or hateful world control freaks. However, biological warfare cannot be seriously considered as and end of the world 2012 prophecy, let alone the exact date of December 21 2012. This must be seen as scaremongering and not worthy of attention

8. One prediction is of a GIANT METEOR OR ASTEROID. Meteors have struck the earth before. Could a giant meteor or comet bring and end to the world? Some predict we are overdue for a strike and give 2012 as a possible date for a giant meteor strike on earth. The biggest threat NASA have identified is an asteroid named Apophis. However it is not coming on an end of the world December 21 2012 dooms day and is currently on a Level 0 on the Torino Scale. It will pass close in 2029 with a probability for impact on April 13, 2036 calculated at 1 in 45,000. Asteroid threats still remain. Worth thinking about is Bible prophecy about 50 kilo hail stones and stars falling the sky, but not in 2012.

9. Others believe that a PLANET X: NIBIRU, two thirds earth's size, will pass through our solar system around 2012 causing polar axis shifts on earth. A process, if it actually happens, that would apparently take up to 5,000 years! So, it would not happen on December 21 2012.

10. Planet X has also been linked to some VAGUE prophecies (or quatrains). Some say that for NOSTRADAMUS 2012 end of the world predictions are true. However, more than once Nostradamus predictions have been "tweaked" to fit with world catastrophies. Nostradamus was a clever man, was he also a prophet? According to a letter written to one of his sons, Nostradamus claimed 3786 was the end of the world (3797 according to some experts).

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Now I have heard some pretty strange things from people.. and some seem real.. one that I thought I should say is the following:
"Obama is the anti-Christ."

Oh my

[Angel]

It's all crap. Sorry. ^^;; Disputed the main ones, the other ones ruin themselves for lack of sense.

2. What about the biblical PROPHECIES OF ARMAGEDDON - we have already had two world wars, will the world end with the ultimate war between good and evil in the year 2012? Biblical prophecies have been right before. One example is the birth of Christ which fulfilled about 300 prophecies. Before Armageddon comes however (and December 21 2012 is not predicted in the Bible as "Armageddon Day"), biblical prophecies speak of a great time of GREAT TRIBULATION on the earth. Having said that, the Bible not only prophecies about a battle of Armageddon on earth but also increased earthquakes, floods, famine, disease, wars and rumours of wars.

There will be things happening in the heavens far beyond our control. These are not end of the world 2012 dooms day predictions. But the Bible does say God will use cosmic events as means of his judgement on earth before the final day of judgement. If there is a dooms day, that's it. But before that day, Revelation 16:21 speaks of catastrophic disasters like 50 kilo hailstones. Matthew 24:29 says, "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the SUN be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:" But while the Bible speaks of judgment on earth before the ultimate "day of judgement", it also speaks of hope and describes very clearly how to escape the coming wrath. This is not about escaping any December 21 2012 doomsday prediction... but something more fearful!

The Bible's Book of Revelation. This text, composed some 1900 years ago, did indeed offer a dramatic picture of the end of the world—but it also promised that it would happen "very soon". The Bible says nothing about 2012 or any similar date.

4. On an ancient MAYAN CALENDAR 2012 is an IMPORTANT DATE The Mayan Calendar runs out on December 21 2012 and it has been suggested that they knew something we don't. This is the basis of what has been called the Mayan caleandar 2012 Prophecy. However, just because an ancient Mayan calendar ends on December 21 2012 it does not mean that the world will end then too, especially as the Mayan's did not actually speak of a doomsday, much less a 2012 doomsday. True, on the Mayan Calendar 2012 was important and you can find out more about this by clicking the link below the next paragraph.

STRANGE MAYAN BELIEFS. While the Mayan's had some interesting beliefs and insights about life and the cosmos and while some of them reflect scientific observations today, there are other things you may not have heard of. For example, the Mayans also believed that our sun is a god powered by blood from human sacrifices - this and other beliefs were influenced by hallucinogenic drugs which were used, among other things for autosacrifices (yes, suicide). So be careful what you believe about Mayan calendars.

In 1966, Michael D. Coe more ambitiously claimed in The Maya that "[t]here is a suggestion . . . that Armageddon would overtake the degenerate peoples of the world and all creation on the final day of the thirteenth [baktun]. Thus ... our present universe ... [would] be annihilated on December 23, 2012, when the Great Cycle of the Long Count reaches completion." These apocalyptic connotations were accepted by other scholars through the early 1990s. But more recent academic scholars have specifically disputed the apocalyptic interpretation of the Long Count calendar end-date, saying instead that it would be a cause for celebration but that the cycle would continue uninterrupted by any cataclysmic event.

These scholars argue that the Long Count does not end on 13.0.0.0.0. In their seminal work of 1990, the Maya scholars Linda Schele and David Freidel, who reference Edmonson, argue that the Maya "did not conceive this to be the end of creation, as many have suggested," citing Mayan predictions of events to occur after the end of the 13th baktun. The Maya, due to the cyclical nature of their calendar, also wrote the date of creation, their zero date, as 13.0.0.0.0. Schele and Freidel note that creation date was inscribed at Coba as 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.0.0.0.0, with twenty units above the katun. According to Schele and Friedel, these 13s should be treated as 0s, so the Coba number would be read as if it were 0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0, with the units of each column beyond the second (counting from right to left) equal to 20 times those of the previous one. This number represented "the starting point of a huge odometer of time". Schele and Freidel calculate that the date at which this odometer would run out lies some 4.134105 × 1028 years in the future, or 3 quintillion times the scientifically accepted age of the universe.

6. Will SOLAR FLARES snuff out the earth on December 21 2012 - solar flares seem to come in cycles and NASA have said that the sun is due for a big one around 2012. How big and if it will really happen or bring about an end of the world 2012 doomsday are unknown. What we do know is that our life on earth is deeply affected by the activity of the sun. And as mentioned in the section above on Armageddon, the sun WILL play a role in end time biblical judgments on the earth. However, while solar flares and other solar activity may affect us more in 2012 than other years, no one can predict that solar activity will bring about the end of the world on December 21 2012.

The alignment in question is not exclusive to 2012 but takes place over a 36-year period, corresponding to the diameter of the Sun, with the most precise convergence having already occurred in 1998.

One idea proposed in these films involves a geomagnetic reversal (often incorrectly referred to as a polar shift by proponents of this hypothesis), which could be triggered by a massive solar flare, one with energy equal to 100 billion atomic bombs. This belief is supposedly supported by observations that the Earth's magnetic field is weakening, which indicates an impending reversal of the north and south magnetic poles. Scientists believe the Earth is overdue for a geomagnetic reversal, and has been for a long time, even since the time of the Mayans, because the last reversal was 780,000 years ago. Critics, however, claim geomagnetic reversals take up to 5,000 years to complete, and do not start on any particular date. Also, while NASA expects a particularly strong solar maximum sometime between 2010 and 2012, there is no scientific evidence linking a solar maximum to a geomagnetic reversal. A solar maximum would be mostly notable for its effects on satellite and cellular phone communications.

[lloydexphere]

Don't be sorry.. I don't believe in alot of it too. ^^;

Although fun to believe, lol.

[Angel]

I didn't quote right, so edited above.

[serraskai]

12/21/12 is mah 23rd birthday.

[eiron]

Angel, Angel, Angel, I love you so much right now.

But as for my own opinion on how the world will end:

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.

Translated: We kill ourselves.

[Magus]

About the Electron/Positron theory.

Fact: If antimatter touches matter we get a boom. The matter turns into shit loads of nuclear energy. That's the basis of some types of nukes. Now, what if to the nuclear energy we add shit loads of kinetic? Are those scientists effing tripping?

I mean, that Adron collider shit, on the day many people were sharpening their crowbars. Half-Life CENSOREDs, I know, but it's true. Seriously, those dumbass geeks will effing blow us.
Whatever, they'll have to glue us back... IN HELL!!!

[zeromaeus]

We'll definitely be the ones to end humanity. 2012? Maybe. Are we stupid enough to blow ourselves up by then? Maybe. On that exact date? Probably not. Also, most people refer to this event as the end of the world. The world will doubtless be here after humanity is wiped clean from it. If you're gonna' say "end of", say the end of humanity. I'm afraid the planet isn't quite as delicate as we are.

[serraskai]

I always got the feeling that the myens didn't just "end" their calender abruptly. There have been several reports of myen calenders that stopped abruptly at dates several hundreds of years ago because they hadn't calculated the next few years yet. So the fact that the last ones they made end 12/21/12 only means that -gasp- they were wiped out before they could move on.

[zeromaeus]

Sept 15, 2009 1:23:35 GMT -5 @serraskai said:

I always got the feeling that the myens didn't just "end" their calender abruptly. There have been several reports of myen calenders that stopped abruptly at dates several hundreds of years ago because they hadn't calculated the next few years yet. So the fact that the last ones they made end 12/21/12 only means that -gasp- they were wiped out before they could move on.

This.
Who's to say the calendar didn't continue simply because their society didn't last long enough to continue it? No really,who? I don't know the specifics on the calendar itself. I also don't put a great deal of credibility into doomsday prophecies. Mankind has had many prophecies of doomsday. No doomdays have occurred as of yet.

[eiron]

Sept 15, 2009 0:52:48 GMT -5 Magus said:

About the Electron/Positron theory.

Fact: If antimatter touches matter we get a boom. The matter turns into shit loads of nuclear energy. That's the basis of some types of nukes. Now, what if to the nuclear energy we add shit loads of kinetic? Are those scientists effing tripping?

I mean, that Adron collider shit, on the day many people were sharpening their crowbars. Half-Life CENSOREDs, I know, but it's true. Seriously, those dumbass geeks will effing blow us.
Whatever, they'll have to glue us back... IN HELL!!!

Um...no. Matter/antimatter reactions don't even produce a fizz. Much to the chagrin of Hollywood.

[Angel]

Sept 15, 2009 13:18:22 GMT -5 @eiron said:

Sept 15, 2009 0:52:48 GMT -5 Magus said:

About the Electron/Positron theory.

Fact: If antimatter touches matter we get a boom. The matter turns into shit loads of nuclear energy. That's the basis of some types of nukes. Now, what if to the nuclear energy we add shit loads of kinetic? Are those scientists effing tripping?

I mean, that Adron collider shit, on the day many people were sharpening their crowbars. Half-Life CENSOREDs, I know, but it's true. Seriously, those dumbass geeks will effing blow us.
Whatever, they'll have to glue us back... IN HELL!!!

Um...no. Matter/antimatter reactions don't even produce a fizz. Much to the chagrin of Hollywood.

Oh, Eiron BEAT ME. Also, Mr. Awesome.. this is Serious Disscusion.. that post of yours is kinda.. umm.. pointless?

Personally, I find trying to predict the date will always fail.. beause I think the world will just end abrutly, but against what was said before.. I happen to believe that humanity will outlive the planet. Some people find the planet, "strong" and while it's more strong than any given human being for sure.. we as a race have already made it to Space. The idea of colonizing is not just a fairytale, definetly not as much as it used to be. The Planet Earth, despite it's lucky sweet spot in the Solar System, is a delicate being hanging on by a thread since it carried life in the beggining, we just have been lucky.